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		<title>By: Janis Lozano</title>
		<link>http://centralparkblogger.com/2008/05/horse-drawn-carriages-part-two/comment-page-1/#comment-8394</link>
		<dc:creator>Janis Lozano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Mar 2010 05:08:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It amazes me the ignorance people are willing to go to for denial.  This is animal cruelty bottom line.  I have seen the abuse with my own two eyes.  For those idiots who wish to defend it, take a look at the cold hard facts... and yes, horseless carriages please, this way we all win, people won&#039;t lose their jobs, tourists get to experience NYC in a carriage ride and the horses get to go to a suitable environment where they can be horses, freely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It amazes me the ignorance people are willing to go to for denial.  This is animal cruelty bottom line.  I have seen the abuse with my own two eyes.  For those idiots who wish to defend it, take a look at the cold hard facts&#8230; and yes, horseless carriages please, this way we all win, people won&#8217;t lose their jobs, tourists get to experience NYC in a carriage ride and the horses get to go to a suitable environment where they can be horses, freely.</p>
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		<title>By: John Moore</title>
		<link>http://centralparkblogger.com/2008/05/horse-drawn-carriages-part-two/comment-page-1/#comment-7691</link>
		<dc:creator>John Moore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 19:12:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We agree - as you saw the horses live in squalid tenements and are kept there because of greed and politics.  Please spread the word to other friends visiting New York that this industry is abusing animals and has no business in a 20th century society.  For more info you can go to - http://www.banhdc.org/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We agree &#8211; as you saw the horses live in squalid tenements and are kept there because of greed and politics.  Please spread the word to other friends visiting New York that this industry is abusing animals and has no business in a 20th century society.  For more info you can go to &#8211; <a href="http://www.banhdc.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.banhdc.org/</a></p>
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		<title>By: AlisonUK</title>
		<link>http://centralparkblogger.com/2008/05/horse-drawn-carriages-part-two/comment-page-1/#comment-7678</link>
		<dc:creator>AlisonUK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 13:03:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have just visited NY and went for a carriage ride in Central Park, as I am a real horse lover. I was reassured that the horses I saw looked in really good condition. I naiveky thought that there was an area in Central Park, where these horses lived in the park itself. I chatted with the cab driver about where the horses lived and whether they had a paddock. He told me that they lived in stables on the East side, with all facilities. I have just logged on and looked at your film of the stables and am totally horrified that horses live in these conditions in this day and age. What a miserable existence - even working horses need some time off to kick their heels with their friends. These poor, poor creatures. My heart is broken thinking that I contributed to this industry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have just visited NY and went for a carriage ride in Central Park, as I am a real horse lover. I was reassured that the horses I saw looked in really good condition. I naiveky thought that there was an area in Central Park, where these horses lived in the park itself. I chatted with the cab driver about where the horses lived and whether they had a paddock. He told me that they lived in stables on the East side, with all facilities. I have just logged on and looked at your film of the stables and am totally horrified that horses live in these conditions in this day and age. What a miserable existence &#8211; even working horses need some time off to kick their heels with their friends. These poor, poor creatures. My heart is broken thinking that I contributed to this industry.</p>
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		<title>By: Natalie</title>
		<link>http://centralparkblogger.com/2008/05/horse-drawn-carriages-part-two/comment-page-1/#comment-961</link>
		<dc:creator>Natalie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 15:01:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some people have wayyyyyy too much time on their hands! The Amish in Pennsylvania, New York and Ohio depend on hard working horses, horses to drive them to a near by store, chuch and their own private school activities. Before automobiles, trains or other means of transportation, the horse was our only source to drag out timber, hall wagon loads of supplies, produce and carry everyones fat ass around! Without the Ox and horse where would we be today?  Some 3rd world country&#039;s still use the Ox and horse. My good Lord are we really that bored today that a group has to think of yet another area to attack lamelessly? Because of this bordom or few minutes of fame or another way to be noticed to a world that usually never notices them to begin with unless they are constantly complaining about something? Do something constructive, join the peace corp, adopt an orphan, thrive on peace in the middle East, help the homeless, the jobless, cure a disease, home school yourself, get a better hobby than a constant complainer! I never seen such people who try to fix something that isn&#039;t broke, but want to break traditions so they have something to fix when there isn&#039;t anything to fix! Leave well enough alone! If most people minded their own gardens, there wouldn&#039;t be any weeds to complain about now would there?  But now days [NO]body minds their own business! Perhaps that is why the urge to write this note, I learned from the rest of you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some people have wayyyyyy too much time on their hands! The Amish in Pennsylvania, New York and Ohio depend on hard working horses, horses to drive them to a near by store, chuch and their own private school activities. Before automobiles, trains or other means of transportation, the horse was our only source to drag out timber, hall wagon loads of supplies, produce and carry everyones fat ass around! Without the Ox and horse where would we be today?  Some 3rd world country&#8217;s still use the Ox and horse. My good Lord are we really that bored today that a group has to think of yet another area to attack lamelessly? Because of this bordom or few minutes of fame or another way to be noticed to a world that usually never notices them to begin with unless they are constantly complaining about something? Do something constructive, join the peace corp, adopt an orphan, thrive on peace in the middle East, help the homeless, the jobless, cure a disease, home school yourself, get a better hobby than a constant complainer! I never seen such people who try to fix something that isn&#8217;t broke, but want to break traditions so they have something to fix when there isn&#8217;t anything to fix! Leave well enough alone! If most people minded their own gardens, there wouldn&#8217;t be any weeds to complain about now would there?  But now days [NO]body minds their own business! Perhaps that is why the urge to write this note, I learned from the rest of you!</p>
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		<title>By: Cathy Fiddler</title>
		<link>http://centralparkblogger.com/2008/05/horse-drawn-carriages-part-two/comment-page-1/#comment-816</link>
		<dc:creator>Cathy Fiddler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 21:16:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have grown up with horses all my life.  I went to NYC a couple of weeks ago to take a carriage ride out of curiousity and was appalled at the hatefulness of the horses. I inquired to my Irish driver about how these horses lived and this is what he told me:

They ride them to and from the barn which is about 5 miles away.  They do NOT have any paddock or field to run around in.  These horses are put in a stall and kept there until the next day when they are tacked up and driven into the city again for a grueling 12-14 hours of work including travel time.

Anyone that knows horses know that 1)  They are herd animals and need to be around other horses freely  2) They need down time to kick up their heels and gallop around and play/relax, roll on the ground or just plain be with other horses in a wide open space somewhere munching contentedly on their hay.

I can see why most of these horses are insane and mean temperered.  They live in a prison every day and even on their days off do not get out of their stalls to &quot;be horses&quot;.

To me, that is the epitome of cruelty and totally slavery.  I am saddened that most people do not know this and that hardly anyone taking the poll seems to think it is cruel to the horses.  How would you like to be locked in a little bedroom after a hard day of work, not able to come out until you were at your workdesk and ready to do it again...no happy hour, no socializing freely with others, no trip to the gym, no watching tv.  Some of you might like that but it is the point that you have a choice and can be &quot;human&quot; if you choose to.  Cruel cruel cruel.

You can believe that I will not be taking another ride again in New York City unless they change the living conditions of these horses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have grown up with horses all my life.  I went to NYC a couple of weeks ago to take a carriage ride out of curiousity and was appalled at the hatefulness of the horses. I inquired to my Irish driver about how these horses lived and this is what he told me:</p>
<p>They ride them to and from the barn which is about 5 miles away.  They do NOT have any paddock or field to run around in.  These horses are put in a stall and kept there until the next day when they are tacked up and driven into the city again for a grueling 12-14 hours of work including travel time.</p>
<p>Anyone that knows horses know that 1)  They are herd animals and need to be around other horses freely  2) They need down time to kick up their heels and gallop around and play/relax, roll on the ground or just plain be with other horses in a wide open space somewhere munching contentedly on their hay.</p>
<p>I can see why most of these horses are insane and mean temperered.  They live in a prison every day and even on their days off do not get out of their stalls to &#8220;be horses&#8221;.</p>
<p>To me, that is the epitome of cruelty and totally slavery.  I am saddened that most people do not know this and that hardly anyone taking the poll seems to think it is cruel to the horses.  How would you like to be locked in a little bedroom after a hard day of work, not able to come out until you were at your workdesk and ready to do it again&#8230;no happy hour, no socializing freely with others, no trip to the gym, no watching tv.  Some of you might like that but it is the point that you have a choice and can be &#8220;human&#8221; if you choose to.  Cruel cruel cruel.</p>
<p>You can believe that I will not be taking another ride again in New York City unless they change the living conditions of these horses.</p>
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		<title>By: Blinders Screened - The Central Park Blogger - The Central Park Blog</title>
		<link>http://centralparkblogger.com/2008/05/horse-drawn-carriages-part-two/comment-page-1/#comment-451</link>
		<dc:creator>Blinders Screened - The Central Park Blogger - The Central Park Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 02:50:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: slow horses and health</title>
		<link>http://centralparkblogger.com/2008/05/horse-drawn-carriages-part-two/comment-page-1/#comment-253</link>
		<dc:creator>slow horses and health</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 21:07:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;slow horses and health...&lt;/strong&gt;

As you seem to know what your doing blogging wise, do you know what the best time of the week is to blog and have them read?...</description>
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<p>As you seem to know what your doing blogging wise, do you know what the best time of the week is to blog and have them read?&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Deanna</title>
		<link>http://centralparkblogger.com/2008/05/horse-drawn-carriages-part-two/comment-page-1/#comment-222</link>
		<dc:creator>Deanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 18:18:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To who ever is saying that the horses LOVE it so much...clearly you have no experience with the animals.  I have been riding for more than half my life, and I can tell you a couple of reasons why horses would not LOVE and ENJOY these horse carriages in New York.

Horses don&#039;t have particularly good vision directly in front of them...so these blinders that they affix to the horse&#039;s bridle is hindering their vision...which for anyone/animal can be a little nerve racking.  Horses are &quot;flight animals&quot;, meaning they first hear danger, see it, and then run...kind of defeats the purpose of them feeling safe by throwing blinders on them, no?

Another thing, horses walking on concrete all day long does WONDERS on their joints! lol...no matter what kind of shoe or support you give them, it will have long lasting damage after walking on those surfaces for such a long period of time.
Just like any of you out there with leg joint problems...doctors will tell you that if it&#039;s possible, stick to the grass!!!

Horse-drawn carriages were banned from Toronto in 1982, and I hope New York, another large city with growing animal rights problems will follow suit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To who ever is saying that the horses LOVE it so much&#8230;clearly you have no experience with the animals.  I have been riding for more than half my life, and I can tell you a couple of reasons why horses would not LOVE and ENJOY these horse carriages in New York.</p>
<p>Horses don&#8217;t have particularly good vision directly in front of them&#8230;so these blinders that they affix to the horse&#8217;s bridle is hindering their vision&#8230;which for anyone/animal can be a little nerve racking.  Horses are &#8220;flight animals&#8221;, meaning they first hear danger, see it, and then run&#8230;kind of defeats the purpose of them feeling safe by throwing blinders on them, no?</p>
<p>Another thing, horses walking on concrete all day long does WONDERS on their joints! lol&#8230;no matter what kind of shoe or support you give them, it will have long lasting damage after walking on those surfaces for such a long period of time.<br />
Just like any of you out there with leg joint problems&#8230;doctors will tell you that if it&#8217;s possible, stick to the grass!!!</p>
<p>Horse-drawn carriages were banned from Toronto in 1982, and I hope New York, another large city with growing animal rights problems will follow suit.</p>
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		<title>By: Jan Fredericks</title>
		<link>http://centralparkblogger.com/2008/05/horse-drawn-carriages-part-two/comment-page-1/#comment-220</link>
		<dc:creator>Jan Fredericks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 20:02:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A homeless man told me that he didn&#039;t like the way the horses were treated.  He said that they were abused.  
Someday, the Creator and the real owner of these horses will hold everyone accountable as said in Hebrews 4:13.  The Bible also says that the love of money is the root of all evil.  The people who cause suffering and distress for these animals should do something worthwhile and find a job helping animals or people and allow these poor horses to live a good life in a field or meadow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A homeless man told me that he didn&#8217;t like the way the horses were treated.  He said that they were abused.<br />
Someday, the Creator and the real owner of these horses will hold everyone accountable as said in Hebrews 4:13.  The Bible also says that the love of money is the root of all evil.  The people who cause suffering and distress for these animals should do something worthwhile and find a job helping animals or people and allow these poor horses to live a good life in a field or meadow.</p>
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		<title>By: Felix the Cat</title>
		<link>http://centralparkblogger.com/2008/05/horse-drawn-carriages-part-two/comment-page-1/#comment-219</link>
		<dc:creator>Felix the Cat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 00:01:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Check out the screenings for the movie Blinders, and PLEASE contact those council members and tell them to listen to the PEOPLE and not the self interested LOBBYISTS.  We don&#039;t condone CRUELTY in Central Park.  My children don&#039;t like to see the horses in traffic.  My son asked me why the people don&#039;t care about the horses and ride the carriages instead of walking.  

STATEN ISLAND, NY
June 6, 2:00 p.m. June 7, 8:00 p.m.
For advance tkts, please visit:
Staten Island Film Festival
College of Staten Island
Lab Theater
2800 Victory Boulevard</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Check out the screenings for the movie Blinders, and PLEASE contact those council members and tell them to listen to the PEOPLE and not the self interested LOBBYISTS.  We don&#8217;t condone CRUELTY in Central Park.  My children don&#8217;t like to see the horses in traffic.  My son asked me why the people don&#8217;t care about the horses and ride the carriages instead of walking.  </p>
<p>STATEN ISLAND, NY<br />
June 6, 2:00 p.m. June 7, 8:00 p.m.<br />
For advance tkts, please visit:<br />
Staten Island Film Festival<br />
College of Staten Island<br />
Lab Theater<br />
2800 Victory Boulevard</p>
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